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Tybort's questions to CzechOut

Note from Tybort: I asked these questions in a numbered list and CzechOut responded thusly. I've edited the arrangement slightly to make them easier to read (also I don't know how to start a numbered list from 2). -- Tybort (talk page) 02:17, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I notice a couple of stories have a previously and next produced in the navbox. How do double-banked episodes fit into that? Tybort (talk page) 00:45, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Double-banked episodes aren't actually completely double-banked. In every case, one of them always enters production first. For instance, the first shot for Blink was 7 November 2006. It's just the main part of the shoot that happens around the latter part of the month, when Human Nature was also in production. I'm not aware of a case where two episodes started production on exactly the same date. If I don't get around to adding in all this production order myself, just trust Shannon Sullivan's site. He's researched this stuff quite thoroughly and has things production ordered as correctly as possible, based on the evidence available. I've independently checked him versus the Virgin Handbook series, and some DWM products. While I have very occasionally found errors in some of his facts, I've never seen an error on any production ordering.
czechout ☎ ✍  <span style="">01:59: Sat 10 Mar 2012 

Dreamland shouldn't really have anything to do with The Waters of Mars and The End of Time's "previous and next" navigation, right? Tybort (talk page) 00:45, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I would say that Dreamland is not a part of the production before/next chain, but it is a part of the broadcast chain. I personally would consider the previous/next chain to go WOM, Dreamland, EOT. But I'm open to persuasion, if you've got a compelling argument.
czechout ☎ ✍  <span style="">01:59: Sat 10 Mar 2012 

Tangerineduel's tech note to CzechOut

Also I'd like to say thank you for not replacing the 'Previous'/'Next' with just arrows, it is something I know I've mentioned in the past, but it's a real pet hate of mine. Navigating MemoryAlpha is a pain because of their arrows / mouse over info (and MemAlpha is practically un-navigatable on a mobile browser because of them).

As for the arrows, yeah I read ya loud and clear there. I'm still considering taking the literal right and left arrow symbols away and replacing them with a background image. I'd point out that Wikia's messing around heavily with its mobile skin. At the current time, tables doesn't displaying at all in mobile, so a literal link to the episodes definitely seems well advised. At some point I've got to tackle customisation of our mobile skin, if it's even possible.
czechout ☎ ✍  <span style="">20:45: Sun 11 Mar 2012 

Known flaw in initial bot run

A number of audio stories have their {{{previous story}}} and {{{next story}}} variables filled with deliberately italicised story names. This sounds like something I would've done a few years ago, but I don't specifically remember doing it. In any case, these pages are not currently displaying prev/next properly. They will require a second bot run to strip the single quotes. So if you see a prev/next line in audio stories that looks like:

''Spare Parts (audio story)''

know that it is going to be cleaned up soon.

If you see this kind of thing in any other type of story, please add a comment below. Note that the condition to report is a previous/next line where the brackets themselves are italicised, but the story name isn't.
czechout ☎ ✍  <span style="">19:03: Mon 12 Mar 2012 

What about stories with multiple "Previous" or "Next" items, like Survival, which came before Doctor Who (1996) and Dimensions in Time, and is usually listed that way... is there a way to include both, or should we got with one or the other? OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 23:20, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

If you take a look at Template:Infobox Story it looks like CzechOut's thought of that with "Made previous" and "Made next" fields.

But specifically with regard to Dimensions in Time we've got that one NC tagged so we don't count it in the regular line up of TV stories. So it shouldn't be in the infobox either way. The information's probably suited better for the body of the article. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Annuals

Thanks to Americanwhofan for pointing this out on CzechOut's talk page. I realise that the bot doesn't seem to have corrected {{Infobox Comic}} to {{Infobox Story}}, but it still needs pointing out: Doctor Who annuals feature a mix of comic AND short stories, which both fall under the Doctor Who annual range. As a result, the short stories lead to non-existent short stories when they should be comics and vice versa. (Example) -- Tybort (talk page) 18:24, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Original message by Americanwhofan

The bot made a mistake during this run, on Myth Maker (comic story), changing [[The Planet That Wept]] to The Planet That Wept (comic story), the article is at The Planet That Wept (short story). It may have done this on other annuals, which have short stories and comics in the same book.Americanwhofan ^{talk to me} 18:07, March 13, 2012 (UTC)