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Original vs Splintered IntelligencesEdit

So I wrote the part about the Intelligence planning simultaneous invasions as a way of making sense, i.e. destroying the world with snow when the Robot Yetis were already being constructed. But this is assuming that the Intelligence has been the same individual throughout The Snowmen, The Abominable Snowmen, The Web of Fear, Downtime, Millennial Rites, and The Bells of Saint John. Or is it that the Intelligence in these adventures could be different Intelligences created after the original is splintered in The Name of the Doctor? Steed 19:59, March 17, 2014 (UTC)

Nevermind. I figured out they are all the same, because in Bells it knows who UNIT are, so the it has to be the same individual, meaning the Intelligence wasn't "born again and again" like Clara supposedly was. Steed 20:43, May 13, 2014 (UTC)


Is the Great Intelligence dead? Even if being part of the Doctor's time stream was enough to kill it, thanks to history changing the Doctor didn't die at Trenzalore, and thus the Great Intelligence's scheme of entering the Doctor's tomb there should be wipe out from history meaning he should be out there in some form. User: Redjirachi 14:42 October 10, 2014 (NZT)

This is part of a larger debate that's been going on since The Time of the Doctor aired. People have questioned how Clara could've entered the Doctor's time stream if he didn't die at Trenzalore. Personally, I think it's possible for both realities to coexist but that's just my take on it. For now, it's probably safe to assume the Intelligence is still dead until we hear otherwise. Slughorn42 01:54, October 8, 2014 (UTC)

Yog-Sothoth Edit

While one short story does allege that the GI is Yog-Sothoth, this article should not be turned into one which is about both Yog-Sothoth and the GI. Y-S, and the broader Cthulhu Mythos, are discussed elsewhere in DWU fiction, making it difficult to claim that Y-S absolutely and positively equates to the GI. A separate page should be created about Y-S, and then that page should have a {{wikipediainfo}} link. (Careful observers will note a slightly muddled deletion rationale for that template in the page history; please ignore the rationale on my first edit from today.)
czechout@Wikia    16:03: Tue 22 Sep 2015

What piece of DWU fiction even implies that Y-S is not the Great Intelligence? Certainly nothing we have yet referenced on this wiki. All-Consuming Fire, Millennial Rites and the Lethbridge-Stewart short story I imagine you are referring to all make this precise link. Divided Loyalties refers to Y-S and makes no more reference to the being, in no way contradicting these sources. The only DWU sources which refers to any Old Ones as creatures featured in fiction in the DWU is The Taking of Planet 5, which most definitely does not refer to Y-S. If we are going to separate Y-S from this article, then evidently we should create articles for Lloigor, Hastur, Cthulhu, etc. And if not, then its pretty clear that the article for Y-S can only be supported by real world info, something completely invalid on this wiki. RogerAckroydLives 12:52, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

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